[BW-dev-discussion] Fwd: You have received a mail from mmlove3

[Peter Lind]

On 29 January 2012 19:26, Leonardo Boselli <leo at freedom.dicea.unifi.it> wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2012 at 18:51, Peter Lind wrote:
>
>> There have already been a couple of posts in this thread about b8
>> being implemented on BW. I choose to trust the developers that state
>> they're working on it.
>
> never rely on italian nor programmers for timely completion. working
> on is one thing, having it working another.

And in the meantime we're not scaring away anyone that isn't you with
tons of spam messages. It's a tradeoff I personally don't mind.

>> Indeed - the long period where they couldn't immediately send
>> messages. Do you think the answer might in any way be biased?
>
> I just refer what they told me. for sure at least one people did
> register on CS since on BW was unable to send messages.

Which is then completely besides the point. The *only* interesting
thing would be if some of these people had told you that they were
pissed off with BW because there was a hard limit of 15 messages a day
for newcomers. If either people don't know you can send messages right
away on BW or don't know about the limit, their opinion is useless in
this context, as it doesn't in any way bear on the subject at hand.

>> And you have still not done anything to show how you will
>> differentiate between spam and copy-paste messages.
>
> It does not. For me is more annoying a CP request send to too many
> people, than a genuine spam.
> A genuine spam is easily recognizable, and take you less than one second to discard.
> A couchrequest sent in 10 copies is worse.
> you spend time in replying  (and even the shortest reply take as much
> time than 600 spam messages) just to not receive any reply or getting
> the reply "thank you, but i have accepted another offer" even if you
> replied after 15 minutes.
> My option would flag also that kind of message.

If you cannot distinguish copy-paste requests from spam then your
method is useless to me (personally). I am fine with copypaste
messages but spam annoys me. So your method wouldn't work at all, for
me.

*snip*

>> Also, as was pointed out: consider the *actual* data. Apart from the
>> spammer, there is less than 10 people sending more than 25 messages
>> per day. Upping the limit from 15 to 25 should pretty much eradicate
>> the problem for now.
>
> settng to 25 would alleviate a lot the problem, but if someone hit
> the limit should be someone that immediatel can take an action,
> either blocking or completely unlocking.
>
> otherwise better using the delete key.

I would prefer just showing a counter on how many messages you have
sent today and how many you can still send - that allows people to
make the choice themselves how much they want to message.

Also, the system could very easily be tweaked: you could have a
gradual easing off, so that every hour you would get 1 email back on
the limit - you'd never be able to spam people efficiently, but you
would be able to communicate with others fairly easily.

Anyway, I don't think we're making much progress on this and I'm
guessing this is noise to most people by now, so I'll lay off the
emailing for now.

Regards
Peter

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